Why Conservatives Bother Listening To Trump 


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I recently published a post ( The Orange Man Inside of Me ) on why I think Donald Trump is bad for America and how “Trumpism” is tainting public opinion and polarizing parties.

I admit that my politics are a mongrel confusion of liberal and conservative beliefs based on personal experiences and influenced by the true north of Karma and the practical GPS of different moral and real world coordinates — data points provided by my friends, my own education, upbringing, sense of justice and my business experience. My DemoIndependican views do not fit neatly in a box and at times, are at war inside of me as the fiscal conservative battles the open-minded altruist for a solution where peace and prosperity can reign supreme. Human nature does not always allow for happy endings. Sometimes we have to choose between civil liberty and national security. It’s not always simple to know the right answer.

I love my friends because they care enough to engage. One close friend, Kaleb, chose to take some umbrage with my recent manifesto about Trump — although we both agree we would like Trump to go away. He felt the need to defend the core of the Conservatives. Interestingly, many of his views and beliefs guided my early years and to this day, give me a healthy respect for those Conservatives like my father who have stuck to their guns. It seems everyone’s message is being attacked these days. You can’t raise the public’s political IQ without giving equal time to help us all find the truth in the middle.

I’m reprinting Kaleb’s response as it is articulate and spot on in reminding us of a platform that has not been able to get traction in Wsshington despite a majority presence for Conservatives inside the beltway…I yield the floor to my colleague from California.

“Turp, Conservatives are not mad because the number of minorities are increasing. We’re not racist, sexist or homophobic. We don’t hate nature or love war. We believe in American exceptionalism, law and order, and liberty and equality under the law – not in the fairness of an outcome. We have observed in human history that progress is made when energy, intelligence and free markets pick winners. Governments are incapable of doing that for long. We have a wise approach to solving the world’s problems that is based in reality and achieving results, not sitting in a coffee bar and enlisting support of “do-gooder” causes that are actually counterproductive to addressing the causes – rather than the symptoms – of many socio-economic problems.   

We view people as individuals, not as members of tribes or groups incapable of thinking in ways other than identified by the mass media. With remarkably few exceptions compared to the mounds of demonizing crap heaped on us by the Left, we don’t demean our opponents or impugn their integrity or motives unless they do it themselves. We can win on the merits of our own social and economic arguments and don’t need to resort to Clintonesque tactics outlined in Rules for Radicals. 

So here’s the background for understanding Trumpism. Trump is an egomaniac and an ass. The only reasons he’s given prominence by the left wing media are because he “sells papers” and more important, his approach will do long term damage to the GOP campaign prospects by pitting “law and order” Republicans against those who have a more common sense approach to immigration issues. He’s the perfect candidate for the left wing media. Through the Trump campaign they can cover and embarrass Republicans while feeling good that they have been “fair” in covering the waterfront of political positions. 

“Trumpism ” is about Republicans who are pissed: not about losing power – but about having gained it and having it not exercised in Washington for conservative solutions. We have the largest number of Republicans in Congress since Hoover, a majority in the Senate and on the US Supreme Court, 31 governors, the largest # of state legislatures under GOP control (68 of 98 partisan chambers) and the most GOP legislators ever elected. Yet the taxing, spending, regulating, Constitutional lawlessness, record borrowing, executive orders instead of legislation, withdrawal from international obligations, using moral equivalency to undermine allies and support terrorist organizations, implement treaties w/o Senate approval, impose more federal mandates, use government intimidation of conservatives … it just keeps going on and on. So Trump calls BS on this, as someone needs to. Good for him. I hope he now gives way to someone responsible who can win the presidential election and turn the tide so that those majorities rule. Isn’t that what democracy is about?”

6 thoughts on “Why Conservatives Bother Listening To Trump 

  1. Blake Isaacson October 19, 2015 / 6:09 pm

    This Kaleb person seems like he knows what’s going on – wise beyond his years!

  2. Andy Stroud October 20, 2015 / 1:27 am

    I note that Kaleb cannot express his own opinion about the virtues of conservatism without denigrating and insulting the so-called left. If conservatism is so powerful a movement then it should stand on its own without mocking those who may think differently. I am proud to be a conservative. I believe in conserving our precious natural resources by protecting the environment. I believe in getting the government out of the business of telling women whether they can make their own life choices. I believe that it is wrong to have taxpayers continue to bear the burden for healthcare for the uninsured. I believe we should not become involved in the affairs of foreign nations or become engaged in nation building. I believe in limited government that does not ease drop on its citizens. I am proud of these conservative values and do not need to mock people who disagree with me because most of all I believe that Ronald Reagan was absolutely right that in order to govern a country, which is the role of government, we all need to work together.

    • Michael Turpin October 20, 2015 / 10:39 am

      I think you had a higher GPA than Kaleb at CMC. I am a hobo and only wish I was as passionate about many of the issues you guys bring up. I only get passionate when I see suffering…Love to your bride and family. Glad she is reading the book and eager to get her feedback as a fellow writer and critic.

  3. CLHiggins November 5, 2015 / 11:00 am

    Forgive me if anyone feels the source of this post derides the illusion of their grandeur, but I feel it has an interesting observation of today’s GOP and is worth sharing:

    • ThrowStonesMedia November 5, 2015 / 11:05 am

      This post was made on Facebook this morning by Robert Reich:

      “The other night I phoned a former Republican member of Congress with whom I’d worked in the 1990s on various pieces of legislation. I consider him a friend. I wanted his take on the Republican candidates because I felt I needed a reality check. Was I becoming excessively crotchety and partisan, or are these people really as weird as they seem? We got right into it:

      Me: “So what do really you think of these candidates?”

      Him: “You want my unvarnished opinion?’

      Me: “Please. That’s why I called.”

      Him: “They’re all nuts.”

      Me: “Seriously. What do you really think of them?”

      Him: “I just told you. They’re bonkers. Bizarre. They’re like a Star Wars bar room.”

      Me: “How did it happen? How did your party manage to come up with this collection?”

      Him: “We didn’t. They came up with themselves. There’s no party any more. It’s chaos. Anybody can just decide they want to be the Republican nominee, and make a run for it. Carson? Trump? They’re in the lead, and they’re both out of their f*cking minds.”

      Me: “That’s not reassuring.”

      Him: “It’s a disaster. I’m telling you, if either of them is elected, this country is going to hell. The rest of them aren’t much better. I mean, Carly Fiorina? Really? Rubio? Please. Ted Cruz? Oh my god. And the people we thought had it sewn up, who are halfway sane — Bush and Christie — they’re sounding almost as batty as the rest.”

      Me: “Who’s to blame for this mess?”

      Him: “Roger Ailes, David and Charles Koch, Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh. I could go on. They’ve poisoned the American mind and destroyed the Republican Party.

      Me: “Nice talking with you.”

      Him: “Sleep well.”

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